Just to be evasive

... but I have been reading some utterly superb books recently, and I'm looking forward to saying more here in the next few weeks. Plus, while I don't have time to go into detail right now, I was watching a Sam Harris video today, and reading a bit of Dawkins too, and it struck me that their arguments are sometimes so astonishingly shoddy, they must surely embarrass many thoughtful atheists. At least I hope so. Of course, as one can read on Dawkins' webpage discussion forum, there are plenty of especially young people out there who have swallowed the rhetoric of Dawkins and co just like other young people turn to naive fundamentalist religion. Interestingly the support of their leaders these particular atheists often offer is typical of that offered in the corresponding religious groups, i.e. they all seem locked into a James Fowler's stage 3 in his Stages of Faith!